What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who doesn't have an odd, reclusive uncle or two?
That he made a vague, difficult to interpret statement (and proceeded afterwards to completely deny any connection between himself and bitcoin)?
That he's "libertarian" according to his estranged daughter (though the following quote doesn't sound libertarian at all to me):
> Then Dorian also wrote about “being tired” about another issue: “I’m really tired of having the JACL, et al. requesting or getting $100K to millions in government funds for Japanese American monuments, about the camps or any other issue. Those money should be send on the JA’s practical needs and growth for the new generations. More dollars should be funded for startup businesses, business education, nursing services (yes, forget Keiro with high self salaries) and all they talk about is executive orders, camps, never about the betterment of JAs on their current living conditions or betterment of young ones going out to the world of business, competitions, financial education, etc.
That it was written in Newsweek? Here is an actual quote from the article:
> Of course, there is also the chance "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a pseudonym, but that raises the question why someone who wishes to remain anonymous would choose such a distinctive name.
What a shoddy piece of journalism. The authors of the Federalist Papers (Madison, Hamilton and Jay) used the pseudonym Publius. At least that name is really distinctive, in that no one was actually named that, unlike "Satoshi Nakamoto" seems like a common enough name for (also according to the article) there to be "several" living "Satoshi Nakamotos".
EDIT: I expect to get a lot of up votes now thanks to this :) :
In an exclusive two-hour interview with The Associated Press Dorian S. Nakamoto, 64, said he had never heard of Bitcoin until his son told him he had been contacted by a reporter three weeks ago.
Reached at his home in Temple City, Calif., Nakamoto acknowledged that many of the details in Newsweek's report are correct, including that he once worked for a defense contractor. But he strongly disputes the magazine's assertion that he is "the face behind Bitcoin." http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DE...
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Unfortunately it may be very hard, or take a very long time, to either confirm or deny this claim. What is the standard of evidence for the bet to be won or lost?
For the record I strongly believe Newsweek got it wrong, and that he's the wrong guy.
You base this conclusion on one line of speculation in the article? Did you miss the part where the journalist flew out, went to the person's house and spoke to them to confirm it was really him before running the story? Sounds like excellent journalism to me.
Yeah I did miss that part. From what I read, the journalist spoke to him for about 15 seconds, within which he didn't really say anything at all, and was then shown the metaphorical door.
I guess we've reached the point in the argument where you've decided to go Flat Earth Society on us. For the record:
"I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have any connection."
In an exclusive two-hour interview with The Associated Press Dorian S. Nakamoto, 64, said he had never heard of Bitcoin until his son told him he had been contacted by a reporter three weeks ago.
I don't deny he's now saying this. That's the substantial difference: argumentum is saying he earlier "didn't really say anything at all" which is frankly baloney.
Funny you read "Dorian S."'s earlier quote and see something, I read it and see nothing. Or actually, not nothing, just not something that means anything.
That part about "distinctive name" actually sound like shoddy piece of journalism. It's like calling "John Smith" distinctive. But while "John Smith" means nothing for native speaker, Satoshi (if written like 聡) can be interesting pen-name, meaning "wise" (google translate won't help you this time, so check http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E8%81%A1 ).
That doesn't mean much though. Every Japanese kanji used in a name means something on its own. Since they're used in names, they all are technicially "interesting". When people tell other people their names in Japan, they will often say how it's written in Kanji specifically to point out those distinctive meanings.
I know every kanji means something ("meaning something" is something kanji are made for, you know) and Satoshi (the Satoshi, I mean) never wrote his name in kanji by the way. But 中本聡 is something more "bitcoin-ish" than some 山本ヒロト, don't you think? So that name isn't really something unlikely to make up. I'd say randomly making it up is really really more likely than being the Satoshi's real name.
The linguistic analysis actually holds up pretty well (both his writing style and his coding style), and the totality of the circumstances wherein Satoshi matches Bitcoin Satoshi makes it very unlikely that this is a "shoddy piece of journalism."
Also, you must not have read the part of the article where the journalist runs through and describes why the other Satoshis are not the Bitcoin Satoshi.
What "linguistic analysis"? What "coding style"? Was any actual code written by "Dorian S. Nakamoto" presented?
Where is some evidence he even knows how to program?
From the links on Reddit, which are the only pieces of writing that can be confirmed for "Dorian", I see absolutely no similarity with the style of the bitcoin paper. None, at all.
> describes why the other Satoshis are not the Bitcoin Satoshi
Where is this? She says "Dorian" was the only plausible Satoshi, and proceeds to use interviews and the absence of any hard evidence as evidence. It's like a creationist saying "how come there are no fossils of the missing link"?
Here's why it's shoddy journalism:
The process also requires a good amount of math, something at which Nakamoto - and his entire family - excels. The eldest of three brothers who all work in engineering and technical fields,
The only "evidence" that the family "excels" in math is that they work in engineering or technical fields. No papers published, nothing except that a couple of them worked at Hughes aircraft (including Dorian S.).
My mom is actually an engineer at Raytheon and before that Hughes. She had to get national security clearance and her work there can be described similarly. I'm sure many HN users have had to get security clearance. It's not that big a deal. Though my whole family consists of engineers, and even some professors, I would not particularly describe us as "excelling" in math. That is probably true for a lot of HN users as well.
And even if you were to make such a claim, it is in and of itself no evidence that this Satoshi is the Satoshi. On the other hand, if he had been publishing cryptography papers or game theory papers or even CS papers for a while, or even demonstrated any interest at all in cryptography similar to his interest in model trains ..
If this person is the Real Satoshi, why are all forum posts except the ones bitcointalk.org about model trains and Royal Danish Cookies?
Not a single post in any programming forum, not a single stackoverflow question, zero online participation in anything related to cryptography or programming.
If we are to believe that the developer of Bitcoin didn't mind using his real name online, what's the explanation for this?
> If this person is the Real Satoshi, why are all forum posts except the ones bitcointalk.org about model trains and Royal Danish Cookies?
Dorian seems to have fragmented his online activity under a variety of nicknames: so far people've found "ShtenDoji", "schten", "Schten Dohkji", "WagumaBher", and "ssshupring" (and I'm not sure if that's a complete collation of Redditor findings). Most of them have been linked either by him forthrightly mentioning Satoshi, or are variants of others. We could easily have missed years of programming activity. So it's not yet a strong argument from silence.
Might I suggest http://longbets.org/ for this? To make it legal in the US, the money ends up going to a charity of your choice, but it's a great way to put something on the record.
Note: Shameless promotion for something I wrote code for.
The worst thing is that this could be a ploy to force the real bitcoin founder to show himself/herself - implicitly their threatening to keep screwing-up random people's lives.
This is the first time I've seen reddit (since it's become a mainstream phenomenon) be more reasonable than hacker news.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek...
> The pieces laid out fit pretty well.
What pieces? That he's kind of odd, according to his family? (if you were to take my family, which is fairly normal, 1/2 of us think the other 1/2 are odd). Who doesn't have an odd, reclusive uncle or two?
That he made a vague, difficult to interpret statement (and proceeded afterwards to completely deny any connection between himself and bitcoin)?
That he's "libertarian" according to his estranged daughter (though the following quote doesn't sound libertarian at all to me):
> Then Dorian also wrote about “being tired” about another issue: “I’m really tired of having the JACL, et al. requesting or getting $100K to millions in government funds for Japanese American monuments, about the camps or any other issue. Those money should be send on the JA’s practical needs and growth for the new generations. More dollars should be funded for startup businesses, business education, nursing services (yes, forget Keiro with high self salaries) and all they talk about is executive orders, camps, never about the betterment of JAs on their current living conditions or betterment of young ones going out to the world of business, competitions, financial education, etc.
That it was written in Newsweek? Here is an actual quote from the article:
> Of course, there is also the chance "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a pseudonym, but that raises the question why someone who wishes to remain anonymous would choose such a distinctive name.
What a shoddy piece of journalism. The authors of the Federalist Papers (Madison, Hamilton and Jay) used the pseudonym Publius. At least that name is really distinctive, in that no one was actually named that, unlike "Satoshi Nakamoto" seems like a common enough name for (also according to the article) there to be "several" living "Satoshi Nakamotos".
EDIT: I expect to get a lot of up votes now thanks to this :) :
In an exclusive two-hour interview with The Associated Press Dorian S. Nakamoto, 64, said he had never heard of Bitcoin until his son told him he had been contacted by a reporter three weeks ago.
Reached at his home in Temple City, Calif., Nakamoto acknowledged that many of the details in Newsweek's report are correct, including that he once worked for a defense contractor. But he strongly disputes the magazine's assertion that he is "the face behind Bitcoin." http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BITCOIN_FOUNDER_DE...